Looking for information about PCSing Overseas with a Pet? Here is what I have found about Reserving a Flight Overseas with pets.
Wowzer, PCSing with a pet is intense! Sure, I’ve read other people’s stories and heard their tales but until you go through the process yourself you just don’t ‘get it.’ While this is not our first Overseas PCS is is our first one with our dog, Macintosh. I wanted to share some info that we learned yesterday about trying to reserve flights when PCSing with a pet.
Who could leave a face like that? Not us!
I will say that when we first got orders I talked with Mr. B about trying to leave Mac behind, but we decided that despite the difficulties we wanted to take him with us, as he’s part of the family. I started researching right away and found out that we needed the health certificate 10 days before traveling, that he had to be microchipped with an international chip and then have a rabies shot AFTER. Then I found that we needed to book our flights ASAP in order to get Mac on it since there are very few spots, and as I recently found very few airlines who will transport pets.
On Friday Mr. B & I went to make our flight arrangements. Since we are PCSing to Spangdahlem we were given the option of flying a direct commercial flight or flying the military rotator flight. We chose the commercial flight since it would be a direct flight and Mac would only have 1 plane ride. They put in the request for the tickets and after you get the confirmation you have to call and get the pet added to the flight. The confirmation came this yesterday morning and that’s when the drama of trying to get Mac to Germany started!
We had already called United a few months ago to get a quote, it would be $559 to fly Mac from Atlanta to Frankfurt, Germany. I was told to call back when we go the flight number & confirmation and they could book him in cargo. (He’s 22 lbs and too big to fly up top with is). I was not told about any possible issues by either United or the Travel Agents on base who booked our flight.
The travel office on base reserved us a direct flight from Atlanta to Frankfurt on United. The only problem was that it was partnered with Lufthansa and as we found yesterday if flights are partnered neither company can book a pet on the flight for cargo. We called both United & Lufthansa and both said the same thing, due to liability and responsibility of the pet they can only add a pet if booked directly through them and not a partner. Guess what else? There are NO direct United flights from Atlanta to Frankfurt, if we wanted to go commercial we would have to fly via Newark or Houston, so they check into those and Nope none of those flights will work for pets either. While there was a direct Lufthansa flight we could not be booked it because it was not contracted with the government rates.
By this time we’ve decided to head to the travel office on base and get booked on the Rotator, but I knew it was going to be questionable because the pet spots fill up fast and we’re close to flying out, not at the 90 day mark I wanted to book at if we had to fly the rotator. Thankfully they had a pet spot for a flight close to the day we wanted, whew! Then back over to the commercial side to get tickets out of Montgomery and the drama with getting Mac on starts again!
The contracted flight (Southtwest & AirTran) won’t ship pets. So we have them check Birmingham & Atlanta, again neither will ship pets! At this point we are thinking we are going to have to drive to BWI, which really didn’t sound like fun, 13 or so hours in the car with 3 kids, luggage, and a dog, hummm. The travel agent checks Montgomery for comparable fares from Delta (because we know Delta will fly pets) and finds a comp rate and is able to reserve us the tickets we need HOWEVER there is a catch, I mean isn’t there always?! Since it’s a comp rate and not a contracted fare the rate can change and we can lose the tickets since they aren’t really purchased until 3 days before you leave. So we could easily find out 3 days before leaving that we no longer have the tickets and will have to end up driving after all, ugh. I’m hoping that doesn’t happen though! Here’s to wishful thinking! 😉 Also with Delta cargo pets cannot be booked more than 14 days out so we have to wait until 14 days out to get Mac’s reservation. So while the BWI to Germany is a go for sure, we still need to get outta Montgomery and get to BWI!
Whew, what an exhausting day! Mac & I took a much deserved nap after that chaos, LOL! So for now we’ve seemed to find a ‘hopefully’ good resolution, but we’ll know for sure 3 days before we leave. Nothing like flying by the seat of your pants! Here is some info that I’ve found from talking with the airlines, current as of Sept. 2013, make sure you call and verify any info for your PCS so your not stuck in a bind! Right now our total cost to take Mac with us is $406.47 plus the new examination fee Germany is now requiring which is 55 Euro.
Info at a Glance:
Make sure you tell the you are traveling on Military PCS orders, the few companies who will fly pets will give you a discounted or non-taxed rate. Also you need to call the CARGO phone number for these companies, it’s different than the reservations number.
–AirTran – will not transport live blooded animals (those are their words, not mine, LOL!)
–Delta – can transport animals as cargo OR Excessive Baggage
For Cargo:
*Active Duty traveling on orders get a discount, when I called the first time I didn’t tell them we would be flying on orders, the 2nd time I remembered too and was quoted $45 less.
*Sample Rate – for us to fly our 22 lb Westie in a kennel 27L x 20W x 21 H it will cost us $294.47 to fly from Montgomery, AL to BWI.
Also know that when shipping a pet with the cargo option you will have to drop off and pick your pet up at the Cargo location, not pick them up in the baggage area. I also found that if we chose to send Mac via cargo that he would not be on the 2nd flight with us, he’d come in 2 hours later so we’d have to take a shuttle back to the BWI airport (or wherever the Delta Cargo pick up is) to get him.
For Excessive Baggage: (updated with this info 11/12/13)
This is the cheaper route, $200, and you check them in with your baggage. You need to reserve it (it add them to your ticket confirmation number) at least 48 hours out, we added Mac at 2 weeks out. He will be on both flights with us Montgomery to Atlanta, and Atlanta to BWI and we’ll drop him off with our baggage and pick him up with our baggage.
–Lufthansa – can transport animals ONLY if flight is booked directly through them and not through a partner company, which is not helpful for the military as they are not one of the contracted providers, at least not for here for this fiscal year.
–Military Rotator (BWI) – Pet spots are limited (I’ve been told 3-5 per flight) and need to be booked with your flights, book these as far out as you can, generally around 90 days.
*Sample Rate – for us to fly our 22 lb Westie in a kennel 27L x 20W x 21 H it will cost $112 from BWI to Ramstein, Germany.
–Southwest – will not transport cargo animals, animals can ride up top but there is a weight/size limit.
–United – can transport animals ONLY if flight is booked directly through them and not through a partner company, which leaves only certain flights available as options.
*Active Duty traveling on orders gets a fee with no taxes included.
*You can book your pet to fly cargo as far as 300 days out BUT you need your flight conformation number and with the military you generally get that about 90 days out.
*Recording says they will not transport any flat nosed breed dogs. Also need kennel with wire door and nuts and bolts on the sides.
*Sample Rate – for us to fly our 22 lb Westie in a kennel 27L x 20W x 21 H it would cost $559 from Atlanta to Frankfurt, Germany.
Yes, Mac we will remember to take your baby with us!
Chantal says
We flew Dexter on Continental Cargo and it was great! I hope we never have to do it again though lol
Mrs B says
He flew by himself or you were with him? It’s super expensive to ship them as cargo by themselves! We want to avoid that and have him fly with us.
MeganJoyJaunts says
I brought my dog over on the rotator with me, but only after driving from St. Louis to BWI. The drive was a pain in the rear, but knowing that Doc was definitely booked on the flight and that he would be traveling on the same plane with me was the deciding factor. Good luck with your trip across the Atlantic!
Mrs B says
I agree, we booked him on the rotator and we’ll get to BWI one way or another!
Kara says
I flew with the kids and the dog by myself to Okinawa. We flew United. We didn’t have tons of problems getting him there. It was when we PCSed back to the states where we had the problems. He made it through the connecting flight in the states, and once I got to Tokyo, I had to pick him up and go through the customs with all his paperwork and our orders (which he was on) and then get him back on the plane. That wasn’t easy with all our luggage and two kids. Coming back was crazy. I blogged about it all. We didn’t know when we were getting orders but knew it would be during the summer when it’s too hot to fly. It was looking at $3,000 + to ship him back to the states. Luckily, someone else was taking their dog back to the states for the same thing and took ours too. My mother in law picked him up and kept him for us. It’s crazy, but we love our pets!
Mrs B says
Ugh, I don’t even want to think about getting him back, LOL!! Thankfully we should be PCSing back during the same time of year…well at least until something changes…ha, ha!
Melissa @ A Little's Enough says
We’re planning on bringing our cats, but we’re so so worried about how they’ll handle the overseas move. Have you ever used a PCS service? There is one by our post in Arizona and, while expensive, they do pretty much all the heavy lifting for us.
Mrs B says
I have not used a service and probably won’t unless I’m going somewhere we have to because it’s way more expensive and I prefer to travel with my pet at the same time. I need to update the post because I found that on Delta they can go as excessive baggage which is cheaper and they are on the same plane as you the whole time. So far I haven’t found the process so overwhelming that I’d need to hire it out, kwim.
emily says
Hello there, new spouse here.
We have never PCSed before and we are completely lost as to how to travel with our new cat.
We are leaning towards traveling by rotator out of Ramstein, Germany to our next base in Missouri. How can we make sure our pet has an In Cabin Pet Spot? Is there a way to see how many flights we will have to take to get there or will it be direct? Please, any information would be helpful. I would hate to have to leave him here if the trip proves too dangerous!
Mrs B says
Hi there! You need to go to the Travel Office/SATO on base, they can reserve a pet spot for you when they book your tickets. You need to do it as far out as possible as there are only normally around 10 pet spots per flight, so they fill up fast. Leave from Ram your only option will probably be to fly the Rotator, they generally only allow commercial flights if there is no rotator at your base. The Trade office/SATO will also be able to provide you with the flight route as well. You’ll have to contact the commercial carrier that you’ll fly in from BWI to add your pet to the flight and pay for the spot, you do this as soon as SATO books your tickets.
Liz says
Does anyone have any information on flying short nosed breeds? I have been researching for awhile and all airlines will not ship my dog at least not in the winter. I may end up having to leave my dog with my mom and travel 6 days from Alaska to pick him up in the warmer months. If anyone has moved their short nosed breed over winter any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
Mrs B says
You should be able to use United Pet Cargo as they fly pets in a climate controlled cargo area.